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If sequestration triggers, furloughs begin in late April

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by Jim Garamone
American Forces Press Service


2/20/2013 - WASHINGTON (AFNS) -- If sequestration is triggered next week, unpaid furloughs for civilian Defense Department employees will start in late April, Pentagon officials said here today.

Sequestration is a provision in budget law that will trigger major across-the-board spending cuts March 1 unless Congress agrees on an alternative.

DOD Comptroller Robert F. Hale told reporters at a Pentagon news conference that if sequestration happens, the department will cut virtually every program and investment, and that almost all civilian employees will feel the pain.

Jessica L. Wright, the acting undersecretary of defense for personnel and readiness, said that sequestration and the continuing resolution -- a temporary funding measure for the federal government that's set to expire March 27 -- also will have a devastating on military personnel.

"But on our civilians, it will be catastrophic," she added.

"Everything is going to be affected, should sequestration go in effect," Wright said. "That's a guarantee. I think that everybody will be impacted by this action. And I think it's incumbent upon us to try to ease that where we can."

The department already has taken actions to alleviate some of the pressures. DOD has slowed spending, instituted a hiring freeze, ordered layoffs for temporary and term employees and cut back base operations and maintenance.

If sequestration hits, this pain will seem minor by comparison. Operations and maintenance funding is the only way to provide the $47 billion in required cuts for the remainder of the fiscal year, which ends Sept. 30.

Within a year, two-thirds of the Army combat brigade teams will be at unacceptable levels of readiness, Hale said. Most Air Force units not deployed will be at an unsatisfactory readiness level by the end of the year. Navy and Marine Corps readiness also suffer, Hale said.

The process of furloughing civilians began today, with Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta sending notification to Congress. "That starts a 45-day clock ticking, and until that clock has run out, we cannot proceed with furloughs," Hale explained.

If sequester happens, each employee will be notified. "That starts a 30-day clock -- waiting period -- before we can take any action," the comptroller said. "The bottom line is furloughs would not actually start for DOD employees until late April, and we certainly hope that ... in the interim, Congress will act to de-trigger sequestration."

The vast majority of DOD's almost 800,000 civilian employees will be furloughed, Wright said. DOD civilians in a war zone and political appointees who are confirmed by the Senate will not be furloughed. Nonappropriated fund employees and local national employees will not be affected.

Limited exceptions will be made for the purposes of safety of life and health, Wright said, such as firefighters and police. And if a military hospital has only one neonatal nurse, for example, that person could be exempted, she added.

While military personnel accounts are exempt from sequestration, there will be second- and third-order effects, Wright said. For example, hours at exchanges and commissaries could be affected, and family programs could be reduced or cut. It is unclear at this point how DOD Education Activity schools will be affected.

The spending cuts will affect military health care, as some 40 percent of the personnel working in the system are civilians. Elective surgeries could be delayed or eliminated, and costs cannot be shifted to the TRICARE military health plan, because that program also will be hit by cuts.

Affected employees would be furloughed for 22 discontinuous days -- 176 hours -- between implementation and the end of fiscal 2013, with no more than 16 furlough hours per pay period.

Fiscal 2013 is just the beginning of a decade of budgetary problems, Hale said.

"The Budget Control Act actually requires that the caps on discretionary funding beyond fiscal '13 be lowered for defense by $50 billion to $55 billion a year," he said. "If those come to pass, then we will have to look at a new defense strategy. That would be the first thing that we'd do."

The new strategy would accept more risk and also be based on having a smaller military.

For now, officials "devoutly would wish for some budget stability right now," Hale said. "And I think it would benefit the department and the nation."



tabComments
2/27/2013 2:55:45 PM ET
As a civilian I feel we have given up enough. We have had our raises denied for the last 2 years now we won't see a raise in April. Two days out of my paycheck is going to be devastating to me. I agree I think Congress should not get paid until they decide on a budget. This blame game back and forth between parties has gone on too long.
Civilian NY, NY
 
2/27/2013 11:51:05 AM ET
To the retired vet at scott AFB. Thank you for your service. I really want you to think about your comment you made about cutting mil to mil housing allowances. My wife and I are both active duty military members and we both took the oath to defend our country. Neither my wife or myself receive full BAH. We both receive partial BAH. We are deployed separately all the time. Thats double the deployments of a family with only one active duty member. Why would you possibly want to hit us in our wallets first We both receive our separate allowances fairly. I admit that this is a touchy subject for alot of people but to my wife and I as active duty members it just doesn't seem right.
10 years in, Langley AFB
 
2/27/2013 8:40:03 AM ET
I have read all the post here there are a lot of great points frustration and anger here. I feel you all. No doubt the furlough is going to hurt but what is the answer There needs to be a solution to the budget. Real change needs to come. I am frustrated that the only recourse the American people have is on Election Day. A better check and balance system to hold the politicians more accountable would be awesome if the people could hold them responsible for their actions I think our governmentelected officials would have a different approach about running our country. Then maybe progress and real change would come. Until then I cant wait for the 2016 election.
TKO, Savannah Ga
 
2/27/2013 8:34:18 AM ET
First I am retired AF of 21 years and now work as civil service. Everyone points to cut military operation and maintenance spending and talk of cutting programs and furloughing civilians...ok I get it and agree to a point. But for a more permanent solution how come no one speaks of readdressing our military contracts It seems to me there are a few management and process advisory contracts that could be eliminated once the contract expires. This is what our senior managers use to do and should be doing. Even changes in military housing allowances. I don't agree that a military married to military should both receive a housing allowance the highest rank should receive the full housing allowance and the other a partial or no allowance for housing.An even a better but I'm sure a bitter option would be to address our tax system. I speak of the non-refundable and refundable tax credits. Non-refundable tax credits are used to lower the amount of tax you owe while refundable
Retired Vet, Scott AFB
 
2/27/2013 8:23:32 AM ET
Disrespected American Wow I couldn't agree more. Let's take back America. Why don't we get to vote on what our elected politicians can or can't do Amazing how they can't vote themselves a pay cut or anything with a negative impact to their finances.
THUG3, AMARG
 
2/27/2013 7:50:39 AM ET
My understanding is the sequestration is still a budget increase. Why is civil service being penalized Because we are an easy target Because it gets media coverage Congress both parties feel civil service is overpaid and over-compensated. The minimum pay for congress is over 2 12 times the average civil servants pay.
RetAng, WPAFB
 
2/26/2013 11:46:26 AM ET
Is this an indicator of too muchbig government
Joshua, Barksdale
 
2/26/2013 9:25:08 AM ET
What happened to our America Don't WE the people have the power Can't we band together and take back America How can we allow these people to push us around like this and WE accept this Remember when you were in grade school and got pushed around you pushed back How can they disrespect our civilian workforce by having the audacity to say we value your service and you are important to us...however sign this letter and go home for 22 days because we can't get our act together. This is such a slap in our faces and when are we going to slap back As a kid I always thought Chiefs Colonels and Generals had the power to stand up to decision makers when it came to defense issues...I'm confused who's really in charge 24 years on Active Duty and I am embarrassed. I am sad for my civilian workmates...my section will suffer during the furlough as will many others across the board...Maybe if you had quit forcing us to exhaust all funds in our annual budget before 31 Septe
Disrespected American, Panhandle AFB Fl
 
2/25/2013 6:09:33 PM ET
One sided soundbites such as the 47 percent remark are the problem rather than the solution. It is true that some who draw federal entitlements are bottom feeders. It is also true that some oil and gas and agribusiness and defense and healthcare and financial sector firms are bottom feeders who benefit unjustly from federal subsidies or special interest laws. And it is true that big corporations and wealthy individuals have access to tax shelters and loopholes and lobbyists not available to typical citizens. The assertion that only one class of people or only political party is responsible for our deficit problems is not factually supportable and does not help solve the problem.
Dean Vinson, Ohio
 
2/25/2013 2:24:11 PM ET
Well the reality is that the US spends more on it's military budget than the next 19 countries combined. I'm affected by furloughs and am not looking forward to it but the reality is we need to take a hard look at our country and the way we spend money as a whole. This sequestration is based on a 2.5 percent cut in our budget and the sad thing is that it isn't for this year's budget but for future years. Let it go through let people see the reality of what's going on and go from there. Hopefully after this items like welfare food stamps and other programs that are being abused will get a hard look by a lot of different people.
C, Scott AFB
 
2/25/2013 1:28:48 PM ET
Wake up people these are not real cuts. All it does is save money between know and September. All the thing put off by this will still need to get done thus costing more in the long run. All of our elected officials are the problem because they will not do their jobs. You cannot point your finger at one group.
Curt, Colorado
 
2/25/2013 12:18:28 PM ET
I agree with Romney's 47 percent remark. Yeah he shouldn't have said it if he wanted to win but that didn't mean he was wrong. At the rate the Dems hand out money to people who can't be bothered to help themselves it's tempting to just stop paying all my bills. I mean why bother I can rack up 1000's in credit card debt foreclose on my house and stop paying my taxes. And instead of getting in trouble the govt will swoop in and give me welfare and food stamps then say since I owe so much money I can sign up for this debt relief program so I won't have to pay it. Plus I can keep my house since they'll also put me in a program that stops foreclosure. Well that sounds like a great deal. Why does anyone even bother working anymore
Sheeple Cant, Be Helped
 
2/25/2013 12:06:53 PM ET
I understand people are struggling and need welfareunemployment but I think these programs need a MAJOR overhaul. 1 - I think if you are already recieving welfare that is the amount you recieve no matter what. If you have more kids that does not mean you get more money. 2 - all these mortgage and debt relief programs just need to go. They are spending billions on these programs instead of holding the people accountable for their own actions. Personnally if they want to jumpstart this economy I think they should take the 46 Billion they gave to the people who are going thru foreclosure and instead given a portion to all homeowners who actually PAY their bills like they agreed to when they signed all the papers buying a home. Stop rewarding lazy people.
Sgt, CONUS
 
2/25/2013 10:43:04 AM ET
The 20 year war and a bunch of greedy leaders of our economy that believe they can behave unprofessionally and fraudulantly because Uncle Sugar would alway bail them out. Guess what Uncle Sugar bailed them out see where it got us. And four years ago if a republican got into office Uncle Sugar still would have bailed them out and we would be in the same place getting a 20 percent reduction in pay.
Carl, Arkansas
 
2/25/2013 10:15:57 AM ET
I have not seen any substantive or convincing explanation for why furloughs or salary reductions are only targeted against civilians in the workforce. It is really hard to believe that other actions or mitigations are not possible that would avoid these draconian measures against civilians. The department and administration appear to be using civilians as convenient political pawns. Where is the integrity here
Ted, TX
 
2/25/2013 10:08:05 AM ET
Cut the salaries of elected officials What will that solve The majority of them are NOT depending on that paycheck. Cut NASCAR sponsorship and Thunderbirds Check What will that save us 20M It's a start. You all know as well as I that we can get on our virtual soapbox and proclaim that change needs to be made. Heck we can even vote in someone different. But that different person we will vote in will still be the same as the last one. Selfish looking out for the lobbyists campaign financiers super Pacs etc... What we need is one of US. Heck though it would cost us what we are estimated to make in our lifetime to compete with any of those knouckleheads. So what do we do I DON'T have that answer. And sequestration... do it or don't. Stop playing the politcal BS games with the liveliehoods of Americans. While it directly impacts the salaries of DoD civilians military is feeling the pinch as well. Give us the tools and we will do the job.
John, Robins AFB GA
 
2/25/2013 9:04:59 AM ET
Bring it. I've requested the consecutive 22 days so I can draw unemployment and travel. However I can't guarantee this won't have a negative effect on my attitude or job performance for my remaining 18 months. Gee I could be a congressman.
Bill, TX
 
2/25/2013 9:04:47 AM ET
Every single elected member of the legislative and executive branch needs to start coordinating with a moving company now and start packing their crap. TO THE REGISTERED VOTERS. Get rid of all the dead weight in DC that you can this coming election season. These ignorant fools are of no use to our beloved country. They are only looking out for their own personal interest and that of their money laden cronies. TO THE ELECTED OFFICIALS ON THE HILL. My family my loving wife and 3 young kids would like to express our thanks for your continued lack of effort and for eroding the American dream. You continue to prove to the world that our country's leadership is less and less of a world power. Shame on you.
SB, Florida
 
2/25/2013 8:52:50 AM ET
Angry Bird I share your anger but not your conclusion that we the people do not have this debt. Regardless of political party our elected leaders have for decades spent far beyond our means on the entire range of federal programs and activities each and every one of which benefits some segment of the American population. Blaming a single president or a single party for our massive chronic overspending is not factually supportable. The current utter failure of both parties to behave like responsible adults is especially infuriating but we elected them and it is indeed our debt.
Dean Vinson, Ohio
 
2/25/2013 8:49:23 AM ET
Angry Bird - do you really think making infantile personal attacks is in any way constructive to the discussion at hand. We have enough problems without individuals stooping the to cheap shot tactics you employed. The discussion thread is about sequestration -- not Ms Obama's hairstyle.
Linda Willis, Joint Base San Antonio - Lackland
 
2/25/2013 1:30:26 AM ET
I agree with you young Airman. I also think they should have a certain amount of time to get this done or they get RIF. Oh wait what was that President Obama promised the MIDDLE CLASS.. cut taxes and provide a better living... yeah his Administration is headed in the right direction. Maybe we should vote again or just get the boot out for all of them and impeach them all.
civilian worker, Virginia
 
2/24/2013 10:29:41 AM ET
The most amazing aspect of the sequestration is the vast number of civil service managers who errantly thought they were immune to pay cuts simply because they are paid via salary versus hourly.
John, Pentagon
 
2/23/2013 7:16:01 PM ET
Jim is correct it does seem like a short term fix. Instead of the uncertainty of civilian furloughs hanging around might as well just reduce every civilians pay starting in FY14. Seems like to me a simple fix by simple mathematics. For the civilians who don't like it they can volunteer to retire or resign from government service. Those that choose to stay obviously they are staying because they enjoy serving.
George , WPAFB
 
2/23/2013 3:36:34 PM ET
Angry bird I hope you realize how incredibly stupid it sounds to bring in the hairstyle of FLOTUS into a conversation like this. It is why you and your kind will never win elections again in this country. Please continue because you make it so easy for the other side.
Sergeant Progress, Maxwell
 
2/23/2013 12:43:23 PM ET
I think it's neat how the military industrial complex seems to thrive while the federally paid civilian workers take the hit. Need to RIF the corporate sponsoredpuppeted politicians from government. Need to get GOV positions filled by people that are representing the american peoples' interests not the highest bribing corporate sponsors. Shame on our politiciansGOV for covering their own butts before the people of this country.Quality of life should be the forefront of the agenda not subjugation and removal of rights of our people that this country was founded upon.Where's the legislature that keeps CEOs honest and limits the means of chasing the bottom line. Really disgusted by the greed of people who already have everything.Some of this appears off-topic but consider the root cause.
SSgt Clymer, Az
 
2/22/2013 11:34:20 PM ET
Jim it may be only 2 years next election. These politicians will never get anything done when they offset each other. The POTUS will never be the one that makes the sole decision. It's the bickering of politicians. How many BRAC initiatives have ever been initiated The politicians in each state stop them in their tracks thus no money ever saved.
Dave Brett, Florida
 
2/22/2013 5:45:26 PM ET
Can't wait for 2016 to set things straight Goodbye O
Steve LaPolla, California
 
2/22/2013 1:14:48 PM ET
Anger won't solve the problem nor taking cheap anonymous shots at the President our Commander-in-chief nor his wife - who has nothing to do with sequestration. Write to your representatives and senators. Being hateful for someones haircut is idiotic.
VB Jim, pafb
 
2/22/2013 12:45:42 PM ET
Do cuts need to be made Yes. However is cutting the defense budget in half the smartest thing to do. Absoluetly not Other major nations friends and foes are adding to their military budgets. Last year there was 1.1T spent on welfare. That alone is the amount of last year's deficitIf we are going to cut anything in half it should be the politicians salaries. They are running this country into the ground and are getting paid big bucks for it.
IrishAirman, FSH
 
2/22/2013 12:39:33 PM ET
Angry Bird calling the President of the United States Nobama and attacking the first ladys hair style wont solve our deficits. I would also like to point out that the complete lack of respect for the other side whether Republican or Democrat is why there is no solutions being agreed upon for our problems. Both sides are so entrenched that neither will compromise and would rather let sequestration happen then agree to do anything the other side wants.
Matt, WPAFB
 
2/22/2013 12:27:14 PM ET
Well as long as they don't cut welfare foodstamps unemployment and medicaid. I was really worried those might be cut and someone may have to get a job.
Clifton Brewer, TX
 
2/22/2013 12:07:47 PM ET
How come we always have to pay for THEIR overspending. With their salaries cut we could savepay back 10 times the amount they take from us.
Frustrated, washington
 
2/22/2013 11:45:54 AM ET
The U.S. has been spending more money than it pulls in for over a decade. Essentially since Sep 11th we have not balanced the books. My understanding is that sequestration is an attempt to force the government to fix our spending problem. In the short term the economy will suffer but that is because our economy was on life-support through government spending. We either need to raise taxes or cut spending to balance the budget. Unfortunately both options will hurt the economy. We need to go over the fiscal cliff but the results may not be pretty.
Budget, US
 
2/22/2013 11:20:01 AM ET
Young Airman while your idea is very proactive and would recieve huge support it cant happen because Congress in their infinite wisdom wrote the law so that a sitting Congress cannot give themselves a pay raise. Unfortunately that also means they cant cut their pay either. Even as Congress already di draft a law that says they will not receive pay until the budget is balance all they was delayed their receipt of pay. They cant vote to cut it or forego the pay.
SNCO Ret, Scott
 
2/22/2013 11:02:18 AM ET
It's unfortunate that our politicians cannot come to an agreement. Obviously reducing the national debt should be a national priority but why are we doing it at the threat of compromising national security Our two political parties need to start working as a team before they defeat our country from within.
SSgt, Florida
 
2/22/2013 9:36:05 AM ET
I agree the politicians should be feeling the heat as well cut there salaries and health care. Don't cut the budget for defense like in the article it will effect our readiness and what if we have to go to war again we would not be ready. What if we are attacked again we would not have the defense in place to protect our country what then. Would the politicians pick up arms and fight Of course not because they are to afraid to do so.
A1C Not Happy , Idaho
 
2/22/2013 9:10:15 AM ET
The real problem is entitlement programs and Obama refuses to address and reform social security medicare and medicaid. The republicans in the house have leverage in one area...the sequestration. This would never become a story if Obama was willing to reach across party lines and meet on some common ground. Our president would rather see our military crumble and free loaders continue to get their free stuff. I am all for the sequestration...let it happen. Republicans need to stand strong and not cave in to the strong arm of this dictator of a president. Sometimes it takes the sacrifice by a few for the greater good of the nation. Let thi be a learning experience for Mr Obama. I'm sure all his ittle pets in the media like MSNBC CNN and BBC will make it look like he's the greatest president in the world and this all happened because of the republicans
Jason, Shaw AFB
 
2/22/2013 8:16:08 AM ET
The people making these decisions don't have to tell their loved ones that even though their term employed husband is doing an outstanding job and commited to duty honor and country he no longer has a job after March. In a one deep position he is still released even though he trains young airmen is responsible for the majority of work and is looked upon as irreplaceable. The sad part is we tell him his sacrifice will help with the budget with all of the waste in redundant armament systems planes that can't fly cost overruns buracracy runs rampant. It is a forgone conclusion that any congressional cuts will happen to their pay only hard working men and women who devote themselves to their country are the first to be sacrificed
Dave, Florida
 
2/22/2013 8:15:40 AM ET
This just shows you how much we are really stretching our resources. Lets put our millitary ALL AROUND THE PLANET and then complain that we don't have any money and that civilians will feel the pinch the most. How about this STOP SENDING MY MONEY OVERSEAS WTF am I paying taxes for protection to be called an American heh what a joke. Government needs to do something usefull instead of inflating BS resources that do not need to exist. I'm sure they can do without a couple drones and missles this year. Just use our reserves. We have PLENTY of reserves just hangin out....Fuel weapons food.... Time to give a little back jerkoffs.
J, none
 
2/22/2013 8:11:08 AM ET
It seems that Angry Bird Jim and Young Airman pretty much say it all with the exception of our Speraker of the House not waffling and stand fast to what really needs to be cut. The military will be put back to where we were at pre WWII readiness and that was at a great 0 remember Pearl Harbor.Everyone stand fast and hold on to America in your hearts this to shall pass. In God We Trust is still on our dollar bill...... for now.
Tish, Hill AFB
 
2/21/2013 4:03:23 PM ET
I have one question. Are any politicians on the list to be sequestered And has anyone looked up the definition of sequestration Let me help you. By definition sequestration is... the act or process of legally confiscating somebody's property temporarily until a debt that person owes is paid. We the people do not have this debt. The politicians do Are they going to lose any pay No just us hard working Americans. Take the billions of dollars out of YOUR pockets. Thanks Nobama for being so kind. And tell your wife the hairstyle sucks. Sad thing is I probably paid for it
Angry Bird, America
 
2/21/2013 12:16:20 PM ET
These talking heads are just doing what they do. heres 2 real world examples of BS....Ready...1. Nascar sponsership...get the eff rid of it NOW. 2. Thunderbirds...Get the eff rid of it Dont need it. Time to wake up America
me, barkatraz la
 
2/21/2013 11:50:30 AM ET
Aren't furloughs a short term solution to a long term problem The sequester cuts are for a 10 year period. Should we expect annual furloughs for each of the nine following years What reason do we have to hope that the house and senate will EVER agree on alternative cuts at least for the next 3 years Will attrition achieve the future reductions needed I think not. Downsize the workforce NOW through VERA and RIF cut programs and give up the peanut butter short term mentality. Then we can PLAN to execute whats left efficiently and effectively.
Jim, wpafb
 
2/21/2013 11:31:55 AM ET
Here's an idea if sequestrian hits how about the members of senate and congress along with the president don't draw a salary until it is fixed How about their health care gets hit first How about their staff gets furloughed and cut How quick would this get fixed if that happened ... wouldn't even be a news story anymore.
Young Airman, California
 
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