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Air Force officials update uniform board decisions

Posted 6/12/2009

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by Tech. Sgt. Amaani Lyle
Secretary of the Air Force Public Affairs

6/12/2009 - WASHINGTON (AFNS) -- Air Force officials today announced policy updates in the 98th Virtual Uniform Board decisions posted June 10.

The following provides a snapshot of approved uniform wear. Follow-on messages will be released that contain detailed guidance and instructions. All information will be incorporated into AFI 36-2903.

-- Effective Oct. 1, 2010, trousers on utility uniforms will be tucked into boots and give a bloused appearance. Tucking had previously been optional.

-- The green fleece formerly worn only as the All-Purpose Environmental Clothing System liner is authorized Air Force-wide as an outer-wear garment. The addition of the name, rank and service designators to the green fleece when worn as an outer-wear garment is authorized.

-- Airmen may use personal cellular telephones while in uniform and walking. Cell phones may be worn on either left or right side; however, the cell phone must be a conservative color. Military customs and courtesies are required and take precedence. Talking on a phone is no excuse for not saluting. Still prohibited is wearing hands-free devices such as cell phones attachments worn on the ears.

-- Enlisted chevrons will be worn on light weight blue jacket sleeves instead of the metal rank insignias on the collar effective Jan. 1, 2010.

-- The ends of boot laces must be tucked into boots. Wrapping the laces around boot is authorized.

-- The length of airman battle uniform lower leg pocket will increase by approximately 1/2 inch.

-- Upper sleeve pockets are authorized on fire-resistant clothing authorized for the Central Command region.

-- Airmen earning and awarded the Army Parachute Riggers badge are authorized permanent wear on all uniform combinations. For the airman battle uniform and the battle dress uniform, the badge will be blue. On the desert combat uniform the approved color is brown.

-- Wearing the black Army Air Assault Badge on the battle dress uniform is authorized upon graduation from Air Assault School.

-- Organizational ball caps are not authorized to be attached to either lower leg cargo pockets on the BDU trousers.

-- The female ABU trouser fly buttons will be the same as on men's pants.

Comments

10/10/2010 5:03:39 PM ET
My peeve is the lack of the U.S. flag. Sure it says U.S. Air Force on there but I love my flag and I want to wear it on my uniform. And yes it's a hot uniform. Unfortunately I'm still here at Lackland and during August it was a tad warm sometimes.

MR, LAFB

8/3/2009 7:20:46 PM ET
There have been numerous complaints about ABU's over the past year ranging from how heavy they are to the shade of green on the blouse not matching the trousers. However one complaint that I have not heard mentioned is the lack of uniforms for petite women. The uniforms regardless of ABUBDU is not functional for women under 52. As a former sailor and now airman I take great pride in wearing my uniform however it is getting harder and harder to look sharp. The additional 12 which is going to be added to the lower trouser pockets will add to the difficulty of trying to look sharp while your pant pocket is half way in your boot. The uniform board needs to take into consideration the different heights of all airmen and make practical uniforms.

Kelly , Andrews AFB

7/10/2009 2:17:35 PM ET
Tucking the pants into the boots is smart. When walking in the woods or the sand you are better protected from ticks fleas and other bugs going down or up legs. Besides you will no longer see white socks worn with the dark BDUs or ABUs.

K Johnson, Pentagon

7/9/2009 6:22:13 PM ET
Tucking in the pants not the smartest idea of the Board. Either was walking with a cell phone. Its been policy for years to stop walking if you received a call. Why the change The change that has been neglected for almost 20 years is the women's blues trousers. This is the change that is direly needed... not the ABUDCUBDUs. We are not in the 80's or early 90's anymore where tapered pleated and elastic waistbands are in. Why is it so hard to change the pants to flat front straight leg take out the elastic waistbands and lower the waistline to just below the navel instead of well above it When women tuck in their shirts its boobs and pants absolutely no body figure in between. All they need is suspenders and the steve urkel look is complete.

hurricanehunter, KAFB

7/2/2009 2:11:19 PM ET
I don't have any problems conforming to the new requirement to tuck in your pants but could you please find a manufacturer who can make a pant leg which is not bell bottom It would be much easier to tuck them in if they had a straight leg. Thank you.

Richard, Lackland AFB TX

6/20/2009 12:04:11 AM ET
What's the deal with approving wear of the Air Assault badge for the BDU and not the Desert BDU or the ABU Real nice letting us legally wear them as the uniform we can wear them on is phased out.

David K, HFLD

6/19/2009 6:11:44 AM ET
Cell phones have become a necessary part of military life. In Korea my NCOIC actually gave me a cell phone because his didn't want to have to hunt me down when there was a recall or when something important happened. I'm in Italy now and get calls constantly from my supervisor and from the Airmen under my supervision. I am busy often in a hurry and it is good to be able to take care time sensitive business and still make it to a meeting or appointment on time. I am also the parent of 4 children. So I agree and disagree with a previous comment about the cell phone change. It is tacky to be chatting with friends all day on the phone regardless of if it's at your desk or on the cell phone. But the OPSTEMPO makes it necessary to walk and talk on the cell phone. I'm sure that is why the change was made.

Stuart, Italy

6/18/2009 10:47:18 PM ET
I find it sad that coming to the end of a twenty year career I've never had the honor of wearing the flag of my country upon my uniform sleeve. The fliers get a flag other branches get a flag Brian Griese has one and the man who picks up my trash on Tuesdays proudly displays a flag even though his english aint so good. Sad. I've been tucking since fatigues in the 80's do it right no issues OR bugs. Walkingtalking sux. Wow. Need hot weather ACU's. Who let Al Queada sign off on the PT uniform it's so bad only our worst enemy would approve it.

Sgt York, Peterson AFB CO

6/18/2009 6:47:23 PM ET
I have worked with Army and Marine Corps convetional SF Force Recon and MARSOC units at Division Battalion Company Squad and team leavels and I have never seen or heard of a uniform as ridiculious as the ABU. No one is fooled by our tiger striped camo system. I can't use my ever so handy shin pockets on patrol. The internal MAP pocket is completely useless when under body armor. Buttons might as well be padlocks when I have my various gloves on for Air Assault missions QRF or CQB operations. And the material this clown suit is made out of makes me want to cry. The fact that you call it a BATTLE uniform is poetic Irony. Thank you for makeing me a clear target to my enemys sniper fire completely unprepaired to support my sister services durring dismount operations in Afganistan due to heat casualtys and a fumbeling moron when trying to access anything in my pockets durring SSE in urban environments. The entire military is paying for this incredible debacle. I pray

USAF JTAC, Biggs army air field

6/18/2009 3:01:03 PM ET
No comment on the uniform changes I have a strong opinion on the comments submitted so far. While I enjoy the fact that the AF is comfortable in soliciting comments on aritcles posted on AFLink I am dismayed by the nature of the comments made recently. Please consider carefully what you chose to post publicly. It is fine not to agree with a point or an issue BUT it is absolutely unnecessary to attack the person who who made the statement decision etc. Calling previous posters names or indulging in flaming one another in unwarranted and unprofesssional. Worse yet are personal attacks on the people who make the decisons or post write the articlesin this case the uniform board. Refering to the idiocy of their decisions implying they do not care etc. is inexcusable. You can disagree with their decision without making a personal attack. Everyojne in our Air Force deserves to be treated with dignity and respect.Worst of all in my opinion is that fact that all this s

CMSgt Rob Tappana, Randolph AFB

6/18/2009 2:40:21 PM ET
Phew I earned my Army Air Assualt badge in 1992. Now I can finally wear it

David H., Georgia

6/18/2009 12:49:29 PM ET
I feel that I have seen everything now It's not bad enough that someone decided that the AF has to start tucked their pants into their boots but to have to make them looked bloused. What a crock. And as for the walk and talk thing I really don't know what you people were thinking I have been in for over 13 years and it's always been that cell phones weren't used unless for official business. I think that it should go back to that. Have you seen how rediculous everyone looks we all look like we're back in high school and oblivious to the world. This certainly isn't the AF that I joined unfortunantly.

Ally, US

6/18/2009 10:37:01 AM ET
Unbelievable. While we are deploying in record numbers to the Middle East the Uniform Board still doesn't feel it necessary to develop a lightweight ABU. It's been 115 degrees here every day and these uniforms are ridiculously heavy. Don't get me started on the cell phone usage. Ridiculous.

Angela, Iraq

6/18/2009 9:09:00 AM ET
About walk and talk - why can't there be a middle ground Walk and talk on sidewalks etc but stop talking when crossing streets or walking where traffic is present other than pedestrians. As kids we were taught to look both ways when crossing a street so stop talking when crossing a street and proceed cautiously.

PF, Arkansas

6/18/2009 8:34:15 AM ET
I hear leaders say If you aren't changing you aren't improving. Someone needs to show them the flip side of that coin that says Just because you are changing doesn't mean you are improving.

Sgt G, JBB

6/18/2009 4:56:40 AM ET
How about getting some maintainers to make the Uniform we fix collage degree screw ups all the time. We need a functional uniform not some outfit someone thought looked cool. If its in the air maintenance put it there

jay, OSAN AB

6/18/2009 4:30:38 AM ET
If walking and talking on cell phones isnt that dangerous how come you can Google the issue and get tons of articles about pedestrians being struck. Also these concerns have led to a few cities looking at passing ordnances that will cite someone for it. So if safety is such a concern to the AF why would they be going the opposite direction The best article is where the woman in Canada walked right into a moving truck or maybe even the one where the teenager got hit by a semi while talking to his girlfriend about prom.....But I guess it never happens were just worrying over nothing.

ME, US

6/18/2009 2:30:41 AM ET
I hope I'm not the only person who thinks the new reg on tucking the utility trousers in the boot is obscene. It states to tuck the pant leg in but present a blousing appearance. Why not just blouse them

Jim, Lakenheath

6/17/2009 8:20:57 PM ET
The ABU is MISERABLE here in the Middle East. I think walking and talking on a cell phone is unexcusable. Now the amount of airmen walking around avoiding their responsibilities of being alert to terrorist threats just flew out the window Let them do what they want is the official Air Force stance as long as everyone's happy on everything from BMT to the twenty year person. The reason you would want to tuck your trousers into the tops of your boots is for the field types and that is to keep the ticks and chiggers out of your crotch If you fly a desk then use your blousing straps I

WOODLINE, Eskan Village

6/17/2009 5:00:27 PM ET
Please just make the ABU light weight and give us a cotton shirt for PT I think that is the most important thing Can't believe that was not addressed. VERY frustrated

T USAF, Iraq

6/17/2009 4:28:02 PM ET
Cont...Excerpt from AR 670-1 Sometimes you don't need to re-create the wheel.C. Soldiers will wear the trousers bloused using the draw cords or blousing rubbers if the trousers are not tucked into the boots. Personnel will not wrap the trouser leg around the leg tightly enough to present a pegged apperance. Soldiers will not blouse the boots so that the trouser leg extends down to the ankle area. When bloused the trousers whould not extend below the third eyelet from the top of the boot. In reference to the laces. 1. The boots are laced diagonally with black laces with the excess lace tucked into the top of the boot under the bloused trousers or slacks or wraped around the top of the boot. Just my two cents worth.

Pete, MHAFB

6/17/2009 4:20:40 PM ET
Once again we are as my 16 yr old would say Epic Fail we have taken something that should be cut and dry or a no brainer and screwed it up. AFR's were very specific in nature and now we have instructions that are grey and fuzzy Look in Army Regulation 670-1 and see what they say about blousing your pants. It is very straight forward.

Pete, MHAFB

6/17/2009 2:47:54 PM ET
OK for the tucking thing...it's not a matter of comfort it's appearance. I started tucking in yesterday and had to stop countless times to tuck my laces back in the boot after they worked themselves out while walking. A properly bloused pant leg just below the top edge of the boot works fine and stays put for the most part. Walking and talking on cell phones Why not Many of us have to conduct official business on our personal cell phones...Sir i'm not in your office right now because...i'm standing in the middle of the parking lot talking to you on my cell phone...please hang up so i can proceed

Charles Hill AFB, Hill AFB

6/17/2009 12:40:30 PM ET
The ABU was a bad idea to start withconsidering the Air Force is so concerned with saving money but yet during a time of conflict we just had to have a new uniform that obviously has caused nothing but problems and costly changes not only the manufacturers but Air Force personnel. Should have just adopted the Army ACU and threw air force insignia on it.

Travis, Hurlburt

6/17/2009 12:35:06 PM ET
Walking in uniform while talking on a cellphone is unprofessional and lends itself to ignoring customs and courtesies. Uniforms Why not allow everyone to wear a flight suit After all that's about all you see when you pick up Airman magazine these days. You don't have to be a flyer to wear the utility uniform designed as a flight suit so we'd all look the same we wouldn't have to blouse it or tuck it in we'd stay nice and cool in the summer wouldn't have to buy green or tan boots or socks or t-shirts...plus we'd all look really cool downtown and in the news.

Roy, SJAFB

6/17/2009 12:34:41 PM ET
Walking in uniform while talking on a cellphone is unprofessional and lends itself to ignoring customs and courtesies. Uniforms Why not allow everyone to wear a flight suit After all that's about all you see when you pick up Airman magazine these days. You don't have to be a flyer to wear the utility uniform designed as a flight suit so we'd all look the same we wouldn't have to blouse it or tuck it in we'd stay nice and cool in the summer wouldn't have to buy green or tan boots or socks or t-shirts...plus we'd all look really cool downtown and in the news.

Roy, SJAFB

6/17/2009 11:51:27 AM ET
Wearing the APECS liner as an outer-garment I can see as the Army has already done this. Tucking your laces in your boots tucking your pants into your boots this is all Army too...so are we slowly becoming the USAAF again I'm sorry but anyone who has ever tucked their pants into their boots knows it's uncomfortable as all get-out. I have a hard enough time dealing with my laces being tucked in let alone the pants. And as far as walking and talking on a cell phone we have to use a hands-free device while driving I don't see why we can't while walking. I think we should have to just like while driving. It would be much safer in my opinion and you don't look so much like a goomba walking with your arm up to your head holding your phone to your ear. Not to mention saluting would be easier as well since you wouldn't have to drop your phone to render proper courtesy. Personally I think there are more important things the Uniform Board could be working on.

Damian, Sheppard AFB

6/17/2009 11:49:46 AM ET
People don't realize that the cell phone issue and the pants issue are trivial. Their main concern should be the ABU. It was designed for office personnel. The Air Force needs to realize that personnel need a uniform designed for deployments not just to another air conditioned office. Whether we want to admit it or not the Army and Marines did their home work when it comes to their BDU replacements and the Air Force needs to get with the program and do the same.

Grumpy, Buckley AFB Co

6/17/2009 11:49:27 AM ET
New change to the change. We will now be tucking our under shirts into our underwear and our blouses into our pants.

B-W, Kadena

6/17/2009 11:42:41 AM ET
So we can talk on the phone while we're walking but we still can't listen to radios while jogging. Seems legit. Glad to see we've got our priorities straight.

Bow, Kadena

6/17/2009 10:49:52 AM ET
Response to J at Altus if I wanted to act like a Marine I would have joined the Marines. We have gone from the smarter service to not caring about our people. We are the ones sacrificing but common sense at the top seems a bit lacking. No matter how much we're told we care about you I just don't see it in their actions and decisions. Tuck in your boots everyone because of the few people who don't follow the rules forget the common sense solution No More Blousing Straps....You people are killing me here with the whining over tucking If you're cutting off circulation you fail. It's amazing how more than 600k Soldiers and Marines can do it but YOU can't. Considering the ridiculous and downright embarrassing so-called combat uniform we're saddled with I'm glad you are all focused on tucking vs. blousing. Oh and for the chapel SSgt who publicly states he does whatever he wants regardless of regs dont forget this isn't MySpace Chairborne Ranger.

A, Hill AFB

6/17/2009 9:35:40 AM ET
In regards to J Altus AFB. Sorry the Marines do not tuck their trousers into their boots they blouse over the boot it is not an option. I know. Semper Fi

B, Eglin

6/17/2009 9:33:21 AM ET
We have always been taught to blouse our pants and tuck in the laces. Tucking your pants into your boots looks sloppy and is very uncomfortable. And talking on your personal cell hone is needed why Talking on your cell and walking in uniform is very unprofessional.

Michelle, United States

6/17/2009 9:19:09 AM ET
I dont see how the AF can spend all this money on new uniforms everymonth. That money could go towards the leaky faucets in the AF Inns that we have to stay in. They could upgrade other bases. They could send that money to the members in the Desert.

Stephanie, Tyndall

6/17/2009 7:53:45 AM ET
All y'all need to know one thing. The Uniform board takes suggestions from throughout the AF. They then look into whether or not to implement the suggestions. Anyone may make a suggestion to the board. Write it up with sufficient backing and send it in easy. Now all you complainers need to start being an avenue for change. If the policy sucks use your chain to get it changed and quit complaining about it.

Kyle W. Baker MSgt Retired, Miss

6/17/2009 6:18:17 AM ET
CRAZY The uniform board has proven that they are out of touch with todays Air Force. Come on folks use some common sense. Oh yeah Steven in Korea giving your opinion does not constitute being a cry baby it's called freedom of speech the freedom that every military member fights for

Max LAFB, LAFB

6/17/2009 3:45:15 AM ET
Doesn't the Uniform Board have better things to do than making tucking in your pants into your boots mandatory Leave it optional

Hugh, Qatar

6/17/2009 3:24:48 AM ET
Wondering what idiot cant walk and talk on a cell phone..well try the one I hit with my car a few months back. It was a civ off base. He was talking on his cell not paying attention and stepped out in front of me. He's still in the hospital recovering from broken bones and a deflated lung. Last week I went to court to determine if I was at fault and thanks to a bank camera I was cleared.

SMS, AK

6/17/2009 3:03:48 AM ET
Talking on the cellphone while walking bad idea people will push that rule to the limit next thing you now they'll be texting while walking.....does that still categorizes as phone usage while walking It's a traffic accident waiting to happen.

Paco, Italy

6/17/2009 1:35:19 AM ET
How can people say it unprofessional to walk and talk on a personal cell phone According to who Get with the 21st century. The CEOs of fortunate 500 companies walk and talk on their personal cell phones. Oh yeah and now for the first time ever the President of the United States has a personal PDA phone and he walks and talks at the same time with his personal phone.

Paul, Iraq

6/17/2009 12:38:01 AM ET
When are we going to get an AFI that actually governs all this. They put a new meaning to Leading by email. Oh wait i have to check my email on my blcakberry that i can play with and walk around the BX with.

Mike, Minot

6/16/2009 10:32:13 PM ET
People need to chill out about the walking and talking thing. This change has been out for days now and I don't see people walking and talking regularly. Sometimes people are walking somewhere and their phone rings. It's stupid that they should have to stand still while they answer it. You people are too hung up on professionalism on things that really don't matter.

Bryan, Osan

6/16/2009 10:30:59 PM ET
People need to chill out about the walking and talking thing. This change has been out for days now and I don't see people walking and talking regularly. Sometimes people are walking somewhere and their phone rings. It's stupid that they should have to stand still while they answer it. You people are too hung up on professionalism on things that really don't matter.

Bryan, Osan

6/16/2009 9:40:52 PM ET
Shep is correct about the origional intent of blousing trousers outside of the boots to keep liquids and other debris from traveling down the leg and into the boot. Keep things as they are with tucking in an option.Also I am assigned to a Joint Task Force and I can assure all of you that the AF is the laughing stock because of our frequent and silly uniform changes. The good things that are happening are obscured with the frequency of changes seemingly for sake of making changes.

SNCO, MIANG

6/16/2009 6:46:24 PM ET
You people are killing me here with the whining over tucking If you're cutting off circulation you fail. It's amazing how more than 600k Soldiers and Marines can do it but YOU can't. Considering the ridiculous and downright embarrassing so-called combat uniform we're saddled with I'm glad you are all focused on tucking vs. blousing. Oh and for the chapel SSgt who publicly states he does whatever he wants regardless of regs dont forget this isn't MySpace Chairborne Ranger.

J, Altus AFB

6/16/2009 5:30:36 PM ET
Who on the uniform board had a beef with blousing straps I personally have been using blousing straps for 15 years now and find tucking the pant leg into the boot pretty uncomfortable. Additionally my truck is a stick so everytime I depress the clutch my left pant leg pulls out of the boot. I'm done write me up I'm back to blousing straps because it makes sense.

Kevin, CAFB

6/16/2009 5:17:20 PM ET
Please shut it down and give us back to Army Wow I never dreamed I would say that. Think of the saved bureaucracy and redundancy needed having a separate service that has forgotton that it is military sometimes.

SNCO, AL

6/16/2009 5:12:22 PM ET
I have never responded to this page before but this time I must express my opinion. I feel walking and talking with cell phones is very unprofessional. While in uniform we must always have complete attention to detail and this prevents us from doing so. Walking while talking on a cell phone will hurt our air force and its image. Next time I get deployed with other branches of the serves I can see myself being very embarrassed of this new rule. The blousing straps may not seem very important but I do have to say it will be very uncomfortable when I kneel down at work. It will also restrict circulation around the ankle and will cause it to be irritable.

Frank, RAF Lakenheath

6/16/2009 4:36:47 PM ET
keeping insects and debris out of your boots is important. Anyone who thinks it isn't hasn't been in the field and i mean extended patrols not camping out behind your shop. Your feet are very important to take care of. Get bitten by the right insect and you could find yourself out of the game. Keep the blousing option. Semper Fi

B, Florida

6/16/2009 4:34:38 PM ET
also having your pant legs over your boots prevents sand rocks and other foreign objects from getting in your boots

dustin, edwards

6/16/2009 4:34:30 PM ET
Obviously those of you complaining about tucking in your trowsers have never even tried it. I have been doing it for 16 years as it was never specificaly banned. It is much more comfortable as you nio longer have the blousing strap cutting off your circulation. As for the laces they should always have been tucked in

JM, Eglin

6/16/2009 4:25:19 PM ET
I agree on tucking the pants in the boots is not a good thing. first it is restrictive on the feets blood flow unless the person loosens their boots in which case it takes away support of the boot making injury more likely. although i do agree on the laces not being bow tied it looks goofy on military boots especially tucking them along the tongue of the boot not inside the bootor underneath the pant leg so as not to show would be fine.

Dustin, Edwards

6/16/2009 4:13:07 PM ET
There are two underlying problems that I believe are responsible for this idiotic change. Guy 1 cuts off half his pant leg and has elastic sewn in so he doesn't have to use blousing straps...he's the one who stands up and has six inches of sock showing. Guy 2 uses a blousing strap...at the ankle. If you re-wrote the existing reg to say something like wearer's option on method to blouse pants but no more than the top two boot eyelets are covered that would have been sufficient.

MSgt Ryan, Eglin

6/16/2009 3:27:21 PM ET
I am 5 months prengnant and I honestly cannot imagine trying to tuck my pants into my boots when I am 7-9 months along. It should be optional not manditory.

D, Minot

6/16/2009 2:54:12 PM ET
The uniform board should take into consideration how our professionalism stacks up to the other branches of service. Walking and talking on your cell phone is out right unprofessional. What would that look like if we were on an Army or Naval base And what does tucking our pants into our boots do for the War on Terrorism How about fixing other major uniform issues such as our ultra insulated ABUs that we wear out in extreme temperatures. Does the uniform board read these comments that we post

Erica , Maxwell AFB AL

6/16/2009 2:45:09 PM ET
When the Air Force went to the BDU uniforn it was not allowed to tuck your pants into the boots. Now they want to make it manditory. If you have ever tried to tuck in the ABU pants it is difficult. Why not keep things the way they are and require individuals to properly wear the uniform. This includes periodically checking your self to see if your red socks are showing. I think with all the things happening to troops both on the job and in their personal lives we have much more serious problems to be spending valuable time and money on than this.

JAM, MARBCA

6/16/2009 2:21:23 PM ET
The walking and talikng on the cell phone may not be very profeesional but i admit it is convenient, especially with kids and crazy work hours.. it's really inconvenient to stop what your doing to have a conversation or have to run to my car to continue my conversation. But to consider it unsafe really what idiot can't walk and talk on a cell phone especially when we get so much practice doing it in civies what's the difference..the boot strap thin is freaking ridiculous and i agree with every single person about the thickness of the ABU i only recently started wearing them and the second i put them on i couldn't believe how thick they were. along with the thick fabric i think it's abosultey wonderful that my top is a completely different color than my bottoms great job uniform board way to focus on the real issues

NIKKI, DOVER AFB

6/16/2009 1:58:03 PM ET
One of the reasons I will not tuck my trousers into my boots regardless of regulation is the discomfort it causes. This is also the same with boot laces. I find that I look quite professional when I blows my pants just below the top of my boot allowing me to tuck my laces up in the blowsing. This keeps both the pants and laces from cutting off circulation to my feet. More over it allows the blowsing straps to searve their intended purpose of keeping critters out of my boots and pant leggings. I have to agree with Matt from Eglin. The people on the uniform board need to be re-staffed.. they are a bit out of touch with functionality of good uniform design for the missions we need to complete. More over they need to find a single consistant design that works.. hey I hear the Marines have an amazing design that works for all environments and it's practical and cost effetive. Wasnt' this the goal of the uniform board Why are they letting the marines show them up if the Air Fo

Todd Vetter, scott AFB

6/16/2009 1:23:27 PM ET
I don't know who the active members of the Uniform Board are but I guess that's a good thing. I think it's time to cross train some folks. The decisions being made are down right embarrassing. What happened to the Air Forces focus of stepping into the Blue being on the leading edge of technology The uniform changes contradict that thought. I must echo the words of so many fellow Airmen the PT and ABU uniforms are a joke congratulations to all the office people who tested those out. Did you think of jogging in the PT uniform before you sent it to mass production or wonder how the Maintenance folks would keep the ABU looking somewhat presentable. The tucking of the pants is just another feather in the cap of bad uniform decisions. We can only hope someone of the proper rank will step up and put an end to the embarrassment. The uniform board is out of touch.

Brian Smith, MIANG

6/16/2009 1:17:07 PM ET
I agree with EVERYONE that the no blousing looks rediculous and feels rediculous. When I went through BMT during warrior week we had to TUCK our pants in our boots. It was very uncomfortable and looked crazy. I understand while we are in the desert to do that so that way there isn't as much sand in our bootssocks but those of us that are not over there c'mon. And talking on the phone while walking That's insane and VERY unprofessional A comment made by Chris Reagan made me realize that we don't have the American Flag anywhere on our uniform. That is an excellent point. We fight and in some cases die for our country yet we don't wear the flag on our shoulder to say that we are proud of who we are and what we do for our country. That's a little odd don't you think

Savanna Reith, Hurlburt Field AFB

6/16/2009 12:37:45 PM ET
I was just notified that the tucking in of trousers on the BDUABU's is postphoned...Good to hear. I've tried to access the Virtual Uniform Board to submit a comment on this but the site seems to be down. I guess they got swamped by comments. Anyway the intent of this was to ensure Airmen weren't blousing their trousers below the top of the boot in some instances down around the ankle. By simpling stating that trousers must be bloused so that the blousing point is laying on but not over the top of the boots would provide adequate explanation. A picture depicting this already exists in AFI 36-2903. They may also want to place a note in their for those individual's who blouse to high stating that when bloused properly socks should not be visible when the individual is standing at attention.

MSgt John P. Barnklau, Ft Gordon Georgia

6/16/2009 12:22:20 PM ET
I have seen many uniform changes as well since entering the service in the 1990s and I have heard many gripes over the years. As for our utility uniform it needs to be functional even if it takes a heavier weight and a lighter weight uniform to make it happen. Regardless if not all our Airman will see combat the uniform needs to be combat ready. The current ABU is not. I joined the military not a fashion parade. Additionally since we now have a Blues Monday in effect how about a permament press version My dry cleaning bill is going to go up.I have none with the ABU. This would be nice especially since I have noticed that some Airmen aren't even bothering to iron their blues now. I guess it is acceptable to just pull any uniform straight from the dryer.

Josh, USAF

6/16/2009 12:10:23 PM ET
I deployed to Iraq last year and tucked my pants into my boots for about a week. Then I realized it was pointless since everywhere we walked was paved or had rocks and I seemed to survive using my trusty blousing straps. How about we fix a real uniform issue like the v-neck tshirt with our blues the open color look is pretty unprofessional at the moment. Or ABU's that are the hottest garments in the desert money can buy. Maybe even just go in one direction with boots. Either way like someone else said lets restaff the uniform board clearly the people on it currently are beyond out of touch.

Matt, Eglin AFB FL

6/16/2009 11:22:06 AM ET
Tucking the pants should be an option. As for walking and talking on cell phones while in uniform this should be prohibited. Period. There are enough walking dead on cell phones oblivious to the world engaged in meaningless conversations.

Mark, Robins

6/16/2009 10:18:58 AM ET
Talking on a cell phone while walking is just plain unsafe let alone unprofessional while in uniform. It's not that inconvenient to stop for a few minutes to talk. Personally I dont prefer the look of tucking your trousers in your boots. It makes you look like your wearing leggings. The definition of a blouse is to fall in a fold. How do you get that when your pants are wrapped tight in your boot I think blousing them down around your ankles looks bad too.

LH, RAFM

6/16/2009 8:59:28 AM ET
I have several issues with the New ABU Uniform. First I agree with everyone else that have to work outside in these uniforms. They are to heavy and impossible to keep clean. I'm an Aircraft Mechanic and my ABU's and Green Boots are usually black and ruined within a month. Second the policy about not having Unit Patches or Orginizational Hats is killing the Traditons of the Air Force. And last I would just like for someone to answer me why the Air Force is the only Branch in the Service not authorized to wear the American Flag on our Uniform.

Chris B. Reagan, McGhee Tyson

6/16/2009 8:56:36 AM ET
Tuck your boots in but have a bloused appearance might throw off the new airmen coming in through basic. How will they know what bloused means The whole idea of a blousing strap is to keep pants bloused tucking your pants in just looks sloppy. Yes socks should not show but why not just blouse the pants on the boot Not to mention lowering the pants pockets so it goes into your boot That just makes us look worse and makes something completely useless.

SrA Michael Papierz, RAFL

6/16/2009 8:40:25 AM ET
Was sock color determined before the board decided we would tuck in our pant legs The board needs to try again.

JW, EAFB

6/16/2009 8:39:04 AM ET
Not only does the tucking of the pants in your boots look extremely tacky but has anyone actually tried it It comes untucked half the time unless you have your boots tied so tight they're cutting off circulation. By far the most rediculous and pointless uniform change.

Sam , Moody AFB

6/16/2009 8:24:03 AM ET
While I am in agreement we have more things to worry about I'm amazed by the whining this has caused and my one whine is the fabric of the ABUs is way too thick especially for the desert environment. I have tucked my pants in my boots for more than 10 years if done properly it is not uncomfortable and no debris gets in the boot I have been deployed numerous times and never have had an issue. For those who cannot figure out how to do it here it goes. Buy the two-inch blousing straps sit down pull the bottom of your pants to above the ankle pull to the front or back and fold excess over put blousing strap around the base of the pant about 2 inches above the bottom this way you can't see the blousing strap outside the boot put your boots on. When you stand up you will have enough excess that will give a bloused appearance. It is not difficult and it is not uncomfortable if done right and it does look more professional then seeing your socks because you didn't pull the pants do

DJ, Norfolk

6/16/2009 8:05:19 AM ET
I don't understand why we had to get a new uniform in the first place. The Air Force is talking about how we are over-budget about how we are over-manned and we can't afford air planes which I am pretty sure is our MAIN mission however we can afford to design and implement new uniforms. The ABUs and the PT gear were obviously not tested long enough or changes were not made after testing was complete. They both have major issues that should have been taken care of before being sent out to the operational work force. For example the ABUs don't match have funky elastic bands on the pants like we are all wearing maternity gear and they are too thick for any person that is not stationed in North Dakota or Alaska. The PT gear is also flawed. The shirt doesn't absorb anything much less sweat. I don't know what body type they were looking at when they designed the shorts because they don't fit anyone. They are too short and they are too puffy.It is a waste of money for the Ai

PAB, KAFB

6/16/2009 7:10:30 AM ET
I remember sitting on base during lunch break and laughing at people who had just stood up from eating and theyre blousing straps had their pants up to the calves...tucking in prevents looking as ridiculous as this. Your in the military its about doing your job effectively not looking pretty. I agree about the abus being heavy. Is it that much of a hassle to change the material

es, RAFM

6/16/2009 4:59:16 AM ET
I don't mind tucking in my pants into my boots but I feel it should be optional. It would be nice to have a lightweight ABU. I agree with the other comments about the Army badges it should be all or none. The AF PT uniform needs longer shorts with normal style pockets.

Wevo, McGuire AFB

6/16/2009 3:03:54 AM ET
I wonder how many people are going to be so completely lost in their cell phone conversations when retreat rolls around. They say in the change that military customs and courtesies will take priority to cell phone conversation but doesn't allowing the use of cell phones while walking constitute a disregard to customs and courtesies. Way to set the example. I hope that this change is strongly discouraged by wingCCs sqCCs and first sergeants everywhere.

Grizz, SC

6/16/2009 3:02:33 AM ET
I wonder how many people are going to be so completely lost in their cell phone conversations when retreat rolls around. They say in the change that military customs and courtesies will take priority to cell phone conversation but doesn't allowing the use of cell phones while walking constitute a disregard to customs and courtesies. Way to set the example. I hope that this change is strongly discouraged by wingCCs sqCCs and first sergeants everywhere.

Grizz, SC

6/16/2009 12:46:14 AM ET
Its 107 here and lightweight ABU's are needed. PT gear needs to be redesigned and whoever manufacturers them needs to be consistant with the sizes. I've purchased medium shirts that fit like a large and vice versa. Talking while walking in uniform equals dead Airmen Tucking in pants into the boots - I've done this before my pants kept coming out of my boots and its uncomfortable since the ABU's are mega thick

The Joson One, Kandahar

6/15/2009 10:35:50 PM ET
I really dont understand how we the air force spend so much time into what we wear and how we wear we have many Airman to include myself that cannot get issued the proper uniform such as gortex apects and other things I have been in 5 years and still have never gotten a Gortex issued also that was being in Alaska for 3 years. but Ill bet that the uniform board got to go TDY to a nice hot place to tell us how to put our uniform on I would be embarrassed if I was on the board and that all they got done. Lets spend more time and money on things we need like tools boots and jackets for US the Airman.

Shawn, RAFL

6/15/2009 8:43:54 PM ET
Unreal...So blousing the pants with straps for the last 20 yrs was unprofessional It appears that someone is trying to get promoted yet again and this will go away a few yrs after that done. Wake up folks and leave the uniform alone. Stay with old or stay with new but either way just stay with it without changes each year. This has been working since 1987 so why change it now Was the BDU designed to be tucked in I think not grasshopper bloused over the boot it was me thinks. The dumbest thing in 20 yrs

Super Star, TAFB FL

6/15/2009 8:22:14 PM ET
Gosh I didn't know so many people in the Air Force were cry babies. Well I did but reading all these posts is embarrassing. If it's so uncomfortable to tuck your pant legs into your boots get out then Last time I checked you wear foul weather gear when it snows and rains. Don't think snow will be going down your boots with that on.If youre worried about a little sand or dirt in your boots you are not made for the military again get outIf you are worried about a little bug bite because of the way you blouse your pants once again you are not made for them military and you need to get out.Lastly if you are concern about how you look in your ABU uniform with your pant legs tucked in then once again you are not made for the military but rather HOLLYWOOD and you need to get out.The only gripe worth mentioning is the heavy weighing uniforms.

Steven, Korea

6/15/2009 4:26:25 PM ET
You know enough people have complained about the tucking that I really don't need to. It would be great if it were optional but this isn't a perfect world and I accept the reasons why some need to do so.However I would love to know what makes it okay for my professional image to walk and talk on my cell phone but not to walk and drink from a water bottle or have hands in pockets. These actions all look equally professional in uniform. It's ridiculous that after the last few years of ripping into my airmen for spending company time on cell phones they now have the blessing of the uniform board to do so anytime anywhere on the go.

MM, Luke AFB

6/15/2009 4:15:44 PM ET
Blouse your pants OVER the boot - the blousing strap should not be on your leg it should be over your boot - and nothing gets in - insects liquids sand etc. The problem is most people blouse them on their legs which creates indentations and allows things to enter the top of the boot. It just takes common sense to consider why you are blousing your pants -- hint it isn't for looks -- to figure out the best way. Tucking in is certainly not the best way.Talking on cell phones. Big deal. If you are too stupid to walk and talk on the phone without getting run over...well....Darwin wins.

DJ, TAFB

6/15/2009 4:05:23 PM ET
I believe there is enough focus on the tucking cell phones and hot uniforms down below. So I will address other serious issues with our uniforms. I am once again serving in the AOR without an American flag on my uniform and pockets on my sleeves to have storage space while wearing my full kit. It makes no sense to me why we have not modified the uniform to have pockets all of the time. Why have a set of uniforms you can only wear in the AOR Thats the whole reason for the creation of the ABU. We should have pockets on both sleeves and a Velcro piece on top of one of the pockets to have an IR flag for identification of friendly forces. I suggest that personnel in leadership positions put on IBA and a drop leg holster and then you will see why pockets are so important.

James, Iraq

6/15/2009 3:50:09 PM ET
I stop trying to figure the AF out 6 years ago but tucking trousers in your boots Did anyone who came to this lame conclusion try it out for 6 months in Afghanistan

Demetrius Lester, Elmendorf AFB

6/15/2009 3:09:23 PM ET
it has recently come to my attention that the flame retardant and obviously more desert friendly version of the ABU is only authorized on OTW missions. As an Expeditionary Air force why are we wearing uniforms that are uncomfortible even in temperate climates only in Northern tier bases would the ABU's be useful.

mike, wright-patterson

6/15/2009 3:00:50 PM ET
I don't mind change but there is some safety issues when we have individuals who can't drive with a cell phone in hand let alone walk. I believe that the policy be reverse. The blousing looks more professional however not much of an issue as walking and talking on a cell phone. Thank You

Daniel, US

6/15/2009 2:46:11 PM ET
Great idea about the stirrups on the ABU. I don't like it but i may have to patent that idea. I can't stand seeing ABU's tucked in As everyone has already said... unprofessional ugly tacky uncomfortable Airman dirtbag are all fitting terms for this most recent change. Is the next thing on the agenda to tuck in our ABU tops that would really set us apart from the other services.

clement, Al Udeid

6/15/2009 2:28:07 PM ET
When is the uniform board going to start asking the Air Force as a whole what they think about a change before it is implemented After being made to wear prison made PT gear that fits as bad as it looks and ABU's that serves no purpose now we have to tuck our pant legs into our boots for what purpose. First off we at war in the DESERT. With 100 plus degree weather our ABU is the most poorly designed uniform in the desert today. Please think about what you are doing before you sign off on it. Maybe a trip to the desert to try out these new uniforms and rules would help on the decision making process.

Ben, Schriever AFB

6/15/2009 2:20:38 PM ET
Blousing policy dumb. AOR policies are fine for the AOR...we get another set of uniforms when we deploy anyways. Leave it the way it was and just make people fix their sloppy boot-blouses.Walking and talking on your cell phone is just down right dangerous this policy change just leverages and risks Airmen's lives for a no-good reason convenience. Just wait until Airman Snuffy gets t-boned by a car at the local BX parking lot because he was talking on his phone and not paying attention to where he was walking...happens all the time when I'm walking around civilians off-base. I guess it will take a bunch of these accidents showing up in the HAF casualty report in order for whoever made this policy to get it...either that or every Wing CC will be sure to make a local policy to undo this.

Josh, Germany

6/15/2009 2:18:43 PM ET
I never liked tucking in BDU pants until a deployement in Honduras where ticks were a major problem. I always tucked after that. I'm glad I retired prior to ABUs. summer-weight BDUs worked fine year-round for me. They were best utility uniform the USAF provided in my 28 years.

Retired ANG, WPAFB

6/15/2009 2:00:10 PM ET
I agree with the majority with tucking your pants in your boots and still trying to give it a bloused affect. The real question is why does it take so long for these decisions to take place. I believe I read that the board convened in 2008 and here it is already June of 2009 and those decisions are just now being made. By time the next board convenes and new ideas and wants are discussed well all be wearing blues everyday because they can't make their mind up about what to do and not do with the BDUABU's. Also on a side not they need to approve the wearing of beardgoatee. I don't see a problem.

SSgt Carlton M. Carter, Ft. George G. Meade MD

6/15/2009 1:34:52 PM ET
No shortage of comments on the blousing issue but I'll add another. I believe we should leave both options in place and allow members to either tuck pants into boots or blouse. What is the logic behind the change As for the cell phone usage I believe this presents a very unprofessional military image and poses a potential safety issue too many times I have seen people - adults and children - step out in front of a car either on street corners or in parking lots while walking and talking on their cell phones. Why do we expect this will be safe in an industrial environment Respectfully MSgt Michael J ByramFirst Sergeant 215th EIS

Michael J Byram, 215th EIS

6/15/2009 1:30:33 PM ET
These are some horrible changes tucking your pants in your boots is just uncomfortable. And like everyone else on here is saying the bigger issue is the way too hot ABU I just did a 365 in afghanistan and I wore Army ACUs the whole time I was there it was just way to hot to wear anything else The ABU is just plain wrong lets admit it and start over with a form of the ACU

Corey, Luke

6/15/2009 1:23:23 PM ET
People who are complaining about tucking their boots obviously haven't been deployed in awhile because in several locations it's mandatory. It's an AIRMAN BATTLE UNIFORM. If I'm not mistaken Monday was the day to look super profesional which was the reason why we wear blues. Plus you can tuck your pants and still have them give a bloused appearance. It's not that hard. Tucking your pants in your boots keep debris and insects from getting into your pants and your boots.

Alan, Sheppard AFB

6/15/2009 1:14:17 PM ET
I think the uniform changes have been an ongoing issue. It is now becoming expensive. Now we have to sewn on our stripes which changes with promotion and will leave a difference is shade in some areas. In addition to that the walking with a cell phone is relative. It depends on who see the action and how it is perceived. I hope AAFES and the alterations are ready for the influx of customers.

Sirrena, Langley AFB

6/15/2009 12:59:29 PM ET
The new policy on tucking the pants didn't last long. I just read a message from the CMSAF stating there will be a message coming out on it. The message will delay this until next year and will also look closer at the intent

Mike, Florida

6/15/2009 12:39:44 PM ET
The current changes approved by the Uniform Board are great however I do think some updates take away from the AF's professional image. How would our Airmen look talking on a cellphone and trying to render a proper salute Some may think that texting in uniform is also acceptable. Tucking the trousers into the boots defines sloppiness personnel will constantly have to readjust their pants to accommodate this. There are more important issues about the ABU that should be addressed and these recent updates are trivial in comparison. Lets face it the ABU is easier to wear than the BDU not being able to iron it and implementing the new instructions will make us look like what my TI called a duffle bag.

TT , Colorado

6/15/2009 12:34:44 PM ET
Kudos on the badges...Except when will they authorize us Airmen that earned the CAB..Combat Action Badge..Army..for wear...yeah we have a candy striped ribbon for blues..Air Force Combat Action Medal...But is a Badge earned under fire less important than ones you recieved in training Authorize all or none Its that simple.

Jordan, EAFB FL

6/15/2009 12:27:33 PM ET
What in the world were you all thinking I would have loved to have been in that room when these idiotic decisions were made Walking and talking with cell phones...apparently there are unprofessional rude individauls on the uniform board Tucking your pant legs into your boot Since day 1 of my last 16 years of service I always thought this was the sloppiest looking blousing job ever Just because some people can't blouse their pants correctly that is where the supervisor comes into play. You shouldn't be telling airmen how to get dressed How to look...yes I'm predicting the next change will be to tuck my shirt into my underwear Get real people Use some common sense By far the most rediculous uniform changes I've seen.

Jeff, Luke AFB

6/15/2009 12:16:35 PM ET
The uniform board gets more attention than the actual amount of thought and work they put into there policies. Most commands have important missions to accomplish and whether or not some individual has elastic strapstucked in will not be on there radar anyway. Pardon me do you have elastic straps on Please tuck your pants in. Everyone Commander's First Shirt's supervisors me and you get very important phone calls while we are walking. Never has there been an accident report on proving walking and talking on the cell phone to be unsafe. So maybe we can say all unofficial phone calls are unprofessional. But what about morale If someone is responding to an urgent message it maybe a neccessity to talk and walk on the cell phone. So one up on the uniform board for making a right decision.

amy, Keesler AFB

6/15/2009 12:15:07 PM ET
Skills required to sit on uniform board Write down as many stupid uniform changes you can think of and then pull 11 of them out of a hat.

SNCO, USAF

6/15/2009 12:14:46 PM ET
We all know that driving on military installations while talking or texting on cell phones is prohibited because of the potential for accidents. What happens when an Airman who is paying more attention to their cell phone doesn't see that truck that is about to smash him ORM Regardless it presents a comepletely unprofessional image. Also tucking in your ABU pants Are you kidding me Another sign by the uniform board of a complete lack of common sense.

TSgt Cox, Eglin AFB

6/15/2009 12:13:01 PM ET
Thank you AF uniform board You have now fueled my fire against everyone who has ever told me to untuck and blouse my pants. I am personally a fan and will utilize this update for my personal amusement. In addition to tucking my pants i too will love walking and talkin on my cell phone. Sometimes it just can't wait. Again thank you

Vince, F.E

6/15/2009 12:09:38 PM ET
I see that a large number of people have expressed their opinion against the decisions and intent of the Uniform Board. Most have made comment about their focus I would like to know what does our leadership plan to do They obviously are wasting money and manpower in a time that those two items are in short supply.

John, Rosecrans Mem Airport

6/15/2009 12:05:01 PM ET
I for one am happy with the new blousing policy. What sense does it make to have bloused pants with a rubber band or elastic above your boot That serves no purpose. If you want to keep sandsnow out of the boot blousing into the boot can have the same effect only you won't be seeing guys socks when they are sitting.

Curtis, USA

6/15/2009 11:59:27 AM ET
I am tired of all the uniform changes I have seen in my 21 years of service. The most ridicules thing so far is the PT shorts which are now going elastic from what I understand. I am not vain by no means but some people should not be wearing spandex. The new ABUs are not a bad looking uniform in my opinion although they are pretty heavy in hotter environments. So I can see another uniform change in the future. Why can't we get it right for once? What I can't understand is the talking on cell phones while walking. I get frustrated enough seeing this outside the gate by civilians. Now I have to deal with airman having their heads where the sun doesn't shine. Give me a break. It's hard enough having to train the newer kids to do their job. So we add the distraction of texting or talking while walking on the new gadget.

Steve the Master Sergeant, USA

6/15/2009 11:57:11 AM ET
I don't see the big issue with tucking. I've done it ever since I entered the Army in '94 and do it now that I'm AF. Whatever...The bigger issue is the absolutely TERRIBLE ABUs. If the AF spent 12 the time it dedicates to not being the Army on procuring what works for real people we'd have comfortable FUNCTIONAL off-the-shelf ACUs. Oh yeah a heavy utility uniform with a ridiculus pattern... I feel like a warrior Airman now

Joseph, AAFB

6/15/2009 11:22:54 AM ET
The tucking your pants into the boot is ridiculous. It looks bad. And now airmen have to spend more money to put stripes on the light weight blue jacket. Not good decisions.

RL, Nellis

6/15/2009 10:51:15 AM ET
I don't see the reason for all the complaints. The uniform board tackled the biggest uniform issues facing the Air Force today. Do any of you realize how much common sense is required to blouse trousers And to be inconvenienced with professional image over an important cell phone call is completely unacceptable. The uniform board really needs to wake up. Your job is to address the Air Force's uniform needs. It looks like you just phoned this one in. I can't wait to see all the tools running around with that unprofessional shotgun look blabbing on the cell phone...THANKS GUYS

HRA, Texas

6/15/2009 10:46:32 AM ET
Another set of decisions made by people who sit behind a desk and only show up in the AOR at the end/beginning of the month to get their two months tax free.

Dave, San Antonio

6/15/2009 10:30:39 AM ET
I have to join the majority on this one. Tucking pants in the boots was a bad call. It looks terrible it's uncomfortable and it defeats the purpose of blousing ie preventing debris, bugs,and sand from getting in boots. Do something productive and make ABU's practical for deployment to a desert environment.Too many paper pushers on the board, not enough worker bees.

Angela, Little Rock

6/15/2009 10:29:39 AM ET
Since when is tucking your pants into your boots instead of using blousing straps and walking and yakking on your cell phone professional We are regressing to Airman Dirtbag and the AF's infatuation with changing the uniform every 3 months is making it the laughingstock of other services AND its own troops. In 15 years I never thought I would see the AF dictate blousing at the expense of combat utility.

Dave, Gunter AFB

6/15/2009 10:26:48 AM ET
Tucking in our pants defeats the purpose of blousing our boots. The original intent was to prevent things from going into the boot if a liquid was running down the pants. Modify the AFI to read Pants must be bloused no higher than the 1st eyelit and no lower than the 3rd from the top of the boot.

Shep, USAFE

6/15/2009 10:07:54 AM ET
Our Air Force uniform has undergone many changes through the years. Some of the changes were warranted and others left the masses wondering why. In the 28 years I have served our Air Force I have seen a number uniform changes where I can rest assured I will have a new wardrobe every five years. Being in a Joint assignment and leading members from the other services Ive seen the pride they have when wearing their uniforms. Each of these members has great pride knowing their individual uniform characterizes the long tradition of that uniform with little to no change. However when our leadership makes statements addressing tradition and maintaining our heritage it becomes demoralizing knowing that a service component that claims to have it together has yet to crack the code on uniform issues. My recommendation is to make changes that are noteworthy and stay away from the trivial who cares type changes. The fact ABU trousers should be tucked into the boot should be a personal ch

RD, PAFB

6/15/2009 9:56:03 AM ET
It's great to see where our priorities lie. Apparently tucking trousers in boots takes precedent over a lightweight battle ready uniform. Also I'm sure that once an Airman gets run over while walking in talking on a cell phone and not paying attention to where they are going this will change too. In the meantime I will comply wondering when the next brilliant change will come from the uniform board.

RL, Altus AFB

6/15/2009 9:55:49 AM ET
It's great to see where our priorities lie. Apparently tucking trousers in boots takes precedent over a lightweight battle ready uniform. Also I'm sure that once an Airman gets run over while walking in talking on a cell phone and not paying attention to where they are going this will change too. In the meantime I will comply wondering when the next brilliant change will come from the uniform board.

RL, Altus AFB

6/15/2009 9:54:58 AM ET
It's great to see where our priorities lie. Apparently tucking trousers in boots takes precedent over a lightweight battle ready uniform. Also I'm sure that once an Airman gets run over while walking in talking on a cell phone and not paying attention to where they are going this will change too. In the meantime I will comply wondering when the next brilliant change will come from the uniform board.

RL, Altus AFB

6/15/2009 9:49:49 AM ET
So now instead of elastic or blousing straps is everyone going to put stirrups on their ABUs to keep them tucked in

MSgt Patrick Konrath, WPAFB

6/15/2009 9:36:37 AM ET
Tucking your pants into your boots happened because there were a lot of old-timers who hated seeing the new Air Force blousing their pants close to their ankles when wearing boots similar to Oakley's Assault boot. I wish they'd do away with the green boots allow tan boots and as long as the pants are bloused who cares Forget it. Just go to the multi-cam before the Army. The uniform board needs new blood.

Paul, Fort Dix

6/15/2009 9:21:12 AM ET
Tucking trousers into boots. A couple reasons are - insects can't get in to bite it is CENTCOM policy too and elastic bands are bad for your circulation in your legs.

Bill, NY

6/15/2009 9:19:27 AM ET
Cell phone use while walking.... I thought that the current USAF focus was military heritage and discipline. I do not see either mixing well with the allowed policy of talking on the cell phone while walking. It is quite obvious that safety was not looked out for when this decision was made because we will now have pedestrians be just as distracted as the drivers.It would be nice if the USAF could actually focus on the big rocks that are in need of fixing than the contant small uniform changes made just to justify a board meeting.

Rob Fowler, SAFB

6/15/2009 9:17:26 AM ET
We received the message that tucking in pant legs was effective immediately now it says 1 Oct. I spent most of my day tucking in my pant legs at least 5 times unlike others who have 4 inches to spare my pants do not have the extra length. Is that what the AF wants now is for us to be bent over I will not be tucking my pant legs into my boots. I will take the consequences. Sometimes I would really like to know the rationale for some of these decisions. Why change the way the womens pants button It is no longer considered a female uniform.

Amanda, Arlington VA

6/15/2009 9:16:25 AM ET
Shocking that the Uniform Board felt it appropriate to walk and talk on a cell phone but blousing straps and cuff stuffers are unprofessional. These changes are two steps backwards. The ABU has been a failure much like the recent attempts to buy new weapon systems. Despite leadership's best attempts the ABU is a failed uniform in the AOR for those that venture outside the wire. The ACU is the best uniform I have worn in 20 years for deployed work. Changes like these only help convice folks its time to retire or separate. We're losing our identity and esprit de corps over minor issues while the major problems go unresolved.

James, San Antonio

6/15/2009 9:12:03 AM ET
Don't mind the tucking in of the pants. All earned badges and devices should be authorized. Where are teh summer weight ABU's? We aren't all stationed northern tier even though it gets warm up there also.

CLW, LRAFB

6/15/2009 9:02:59 AM ET
I didn't realize that using blousing straps looked so horrible that the AF needed to get rid of them. Tuck your pants into your boots. Get real. That is the tackiest uniform idea I've ever heard It not only looks bad it is very uncomfortable. I have a little bit of advice for the uniform board...address some real uniform issues for once.

John, Tyndall AFB FL

6/15/2009 8:48:50 AM ET
Wow...this was pretty pathetic. Why tuck in our trousers to our bootsImagining our fellow Airmen dressed like that looks so unprofessional. I like the way we blouse or trousers using our blousing straps and it looks great...why change that What really gets me the most is the cell phone issue. Now that was a huge mistake to authorize permission for. It will look so hideous seeing EVERYONE walking around base with a phone to their ear. I guarantee you this issue will definitely distract Airmen from executing their proper courtesies...like saluting to an officer or an officer's vehicle...and this is coming from an Airmen who hasn't been in the service for that long. I can tell you this will quickly start up a heated debate because so many rules will be broken from all of this. I also heard that our Air Force name will be changed to Air Corps I mean honestly...what is going on around here

Jessica, United States

6/15/2009 8:38:32 AM ET
Once again the Uniform Board has failed big time....If we keep changing things to be more in line with the Army then the Air Force's days are numbered. The Army already wants to take over the UAV mission this just gives them more meat in taking over the whole Air Force mission. Who does the check and balance for the Uniform Board? Probably Army

Brent, Ramstein

6/15/2009 8:01:01 AM ET
Thank You for listenin' to us and taking action on things we've been hearing about for years. Especially upper arm pockets on fire-resistant ABUs. What a pain it is to get things out of pockets while crunched into HMMWVs MRAPs. Keep it up

seth, D.C USA

6/15/2009 7:24:59 AM ET
Tucking our pants in to our boots...one more step towards becoming the Army Air Corps once again.

Jeff, Japan

6/15/2009 6:57:52 AM ET
We'll see how long the cell phone usage outdoors while in uniform stands once staff cars start getting blown off.

Z, SC

6/15/2009 3:17:17 AM ET
That's great that AF members can finally show off their technical skills as far as badges go but I highly protest walking and talking in uniform being authorized.I'm 22 and I'm definitely a child of the tech era and I can understand walking and talking in civilian clothes. But this is outrageous. It's just one more degree of separation from normal human contact and not to mention incredibly rude. Is this a recruiting tool or whatI'll bet the original standard is reinstated in 5 years or less.

A1C, Kuwait

6/15/2009 2:33:51 AM ET
As far as talking on the cell phone while walking in uniform the majority of blue-suiters never followed that one anyway. Regarding tucking in trousers I suggest we all get on their feedback site and advocate using the verbiage trousers must be bloused over the top of the boot and maintain bloused appearance This gives us the option as long as it keeps the intended appearance. I for one find it uncomfortable to tuck in my trousers. I think my blousing straps work just fine and meet the intent of a bloused appearance.

Mike, Hickam

6/15/2009 2:29:23 AM ET
I welcome the changes. Fleece idea is one of the best ever. Light ABUs good idea but everytime I wore IBA it didnt matter if the uniform was light or heavy it was always hot. As I recall we all stood up and said we will comply I joined the AF not the Army or USMC so I wear what the AF tells me to wear. Others are nice but AF outweighs all opinions. Press on and wear it proudly. Bring back the Fatigues

Rob, Korea

6/15/2009 1:34:41 AM ET
I can't believe they authorized cell phone usage while walking and still expect customs and courtesies to apply. I have never seen anything worse than someone in uniform walking and talking on a cell phone. Walking and talking on a cell should the be exception not the rule. Nice to see the Air Force take yet another step away from discipline and military professionalism.

Kyle, United States

6/15/2009 12:23:42 AM ET
I just wish there would more effort towards creating a thinner ABU. I mean I like the fact that we do not have to iron uniform or shine boots anymore. As far as tucking pants in our boots goes you tell us to tuck it in and we will but it will not help to stay cooler in this heat.

Vitaliy Kim, Okinawa

6/14/2009 11:22:28 PM ET
Since 1991 my BDU pants had to be bloused and they looked bloused. Now they have to be tucked into the boot and still have the bloused look. Why change how something is done when has worked for at least 18 years only to have it look the same.

Jason Robinson, Osan AB

6/14/2009 11:13:40 PM ET
I see a lot of complaints about how tucking the trouser into the boots looks - what I see as the real problem is the 5 minutes every 2 hours that every working Airman will have to spend to fix their blousing because the trousers aren't designed to stay in the boots. This seems like a reverse AFSO21 initiative and the only way to get all of the NCO's to back you up is to explain what you're trying to accomplish. Please

Tim Brace, Shaw AFB SC

6/14/2009 9:46:43 PM ET
I like everyone else do NOT like the tucking in the pants idea. I heard about it on Thursday and was told it was effective right then. So Friday morning I tried it and it was awful. It was all lumpy and looked like CRAP. So I stuck with my blousing straps and will continue to do so. I think this needs to be looked at again there is a lot of heartburn over this. There are bigger things to worry about than blousing straps

Kate, BAFB

6/14/2009 8:53:15 PM ET
Tucking pants into boots is a force health protection issue. Blousing pants the way we have done in the AF for so many years invariably results in the blousing strap pulling up the leg exposing socks or bare leg to insects many of which carry life-threatening diseases. Tucking pants into boots protects against those exposures. It's not the final solution to preventing insect-borne diseases but is one additional level of protection for our Airmen the goal being to get us all back home safe and healthy. To anyone who understands basic entomology and public health its a no-brainer.

Brad S Winterton, Tyndall AFB FL

6/14/2009 8:43:17 PM ET
Am I in the twilight zone Walking and talking on cell phones is authorized Our pockets need to be longer It would be nice if we could get a uniform board that focuses on important issues.

Brian, Afghanistan

6/14/2009 8:19:36 PM ET
The biggest issue I can't wrap my head around is the cell phone. When the AFI came out dealing with cell phones it was made clear that you could only talk on a cell phone if it was part of your job. i.e. security forces fire dept. commander etc. I don't see how just anyone can walk and talk on a cell phone and have it be a part of their duty. I don't walk and talk on my cell phone in civilian clothes. As for the blousing strap issue all I can say about that is someone wasn't thinking about that. Tucking your pants into your boots looks even worse

Ron, Korea

6/14/2009 8:15:31 PM ET
How does one become a member of the uniform board I'd like to see a variety of AFSC's serve andor provide input on this and make necessary changes vs change just for the change....seems to me as if the uniform board has too many personnel andor too much time on their hands. Hope someone takes note and soon

Andy, Maryland

6/14/2009 7:53:02 PM ET
People say we are spending too much money on new planes ie.F-22 F-35. well I think we could recoup some money and stop paying the uniform board or give them a real job

Jason, Osan

6/14/2009 5:18:50 PM ET
We have always been taught to blouse our pants and tuck in the laces. Tucking your pants into your boots looks sloppy and is uncomfortable. Talking on your cell and walking in uniform is very unprofessional. Downgrades the wearing of our proud uniform. The Uniform board needs to get together again and make better decisions and deal with issues that matter more to the airman.

Ken, Travis AFB Ca

6/14/2009 4:47:11 PM ET
Garment with ABU And yet again we follow suit of the Army. They've been doing this ever since the ACU came out. However next on the agenda will be the velcro name tapes on the outside of these after commanders can't remember an Airman's name. Like the silver name badge on Service Dress for example.Abandon the ugly green boots The Army has mechanics that wear tan boots and it works fine for them. The amount of money that's been dumped into making them work or return returning to the black boots is borderline FWA worthy. Then again perhaps the AF should realize that dirty boots isn't the end of the world but that would require leaders to stop pressingstarching their ABUs as well.

Keith cont., US

6/14/2009 1:43:46 PM ET
UPPER SLEEVE POCKET APPROVED FOR FIRE RESISTANT ABUS AUTHORIZED FOR AND WORN ONLY IN THE AOR Silly rule but one step closer to the uniform board realizing there really is a garrison ABU and an AOR ABU. It's not like the uniform board will say You guys were right the ABU is a bad design and let's fix it at one uniform board.AUTHORIZE WEAR OF THE AIR FORCE OFFICE OF SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS DUTY BADGE ON THE SERVICE DRESS UNIFORM AND SUBDUED CLOTH DUTY BADGE ON THE ABU What took them so long to allow these badges If I were king I would allow AF to wear any high-speed badge earned. Then again if I were king I would get rid of extraneous badges. Does anyone really care that my badge with a globe and a wreath around it means I sit in a cubicle reading e-mails all day or working on the flightline Most of them blend into each other so much that you can't tell the difference in the basic badge design from more than a foot away.

Keith, US

6/14/2009 1:36:22 PM ET
I can now see why so many first term airmen are running for the door at reenlistment time. We have airmen in combat zones without proper training airmen living in mold infested dorms and then a message comes down doing away with blousing straps. This is by far the biggest waste of time and talk I've seen in 12 years of service. When is the leadership going to start worrying about things that actually matter

DL, Qatar

6/14/2009 1:36:12 PM ET
I am not understanding something here seems a lot of people are worried about blousing pants laces etc. i am concerned about the cell phone usage we have a severe double standard here. we are not able to walk and eat chew gum or drink soda while in uniform and now we are able to talk on a cell phone while walking we are concerned about Professional image to me nothing screams unprofessional like talking on a cell phone while in uniform. there is not a single person that important that we need to walk and talk on a cell phone. Lets get Real

andrew, Korea

6/14/2009 9:34:45 AM ET
It looks like our Virtual Warriors did it again. Virtual Warriors 10, People who make it happen 0. I think we should reconsider the beret and a French mustache because that is just dripping with Warrior Ethos...............

Nate, Robins

6/14/2009 7:28:13 AM ET
I am in Afghanistan and I agree that a lighter weight ABU should have been the main focus. I wear ACU's outside the wire and they are so much more comfortable. The tucking the laces is something I have been doing for nine years because my TI said it had to be done that way and the blousing the pants in the boot looks tacky and just sucks.

Mark, Afghanistan

6/14/2009 12:18:19 AM ET
do you guys take the ABUs as utility I would take a utility uniform as the one that services some time wear flight line maintance crews when there not wearing a uniform but i may be wrong. the cell phone thing is stupid to. people cant drive while talking on phones so even more so while walking really like the idea about the fleece though

Tony , Randolph AFB

6/13/2009 11:58:05 PM ET
I wonder if those that made the decision to tuck the ABU BDU trousers into the boots has tried this for at least a week. It is uncomfortable and the blouse appearance is far less professional looking than blousing above the boots. Oh and walking and talking with a cell phone This is unprofessional no matter how you cut it

Michael Belanger, Edwards AFB

6/13/2009 10:57:50 PM ET
this is the dumbest thing I have seen in my 15 years of service.

dave, wyoming

6/13/2009 8:52:59 PM ET
While most of these changes range from ludicrous all the way to detrimental to portraying a military image I think it's clear that these changes are based on personal desires of those on the uniform board rather than an effort to improve the standards that govern the wear of our uniform. It's a shame that any time at all was wasted on such a capricious effort when the board could have been contributing to the mission by going on a JET.

MSgt Boots, Osan AB

6/13/2009 5:44:51 PM ET
As a graduate of Air Assault school it's nice to see that it's authorized for wear now

Erik, US

6/13/2009 5:09:40 PM ET
So what qualifies the Army Air Assault badge to be authorized If thats the case then why not also the Army Ranger Tab or how about giving SERE specialists there scroll back I say allow all or nothing....this is getting ridiculous.

Pete, MI

6/13/2009 3:19:56 PM ET
Well here we go again with uniform changes Looks like everyone is so worried that your pants must be tucked into the boots and buttons on female pants are now going to be like males instead of worring about the thickheavyhot ABU's that we currently wear in a combat zone and back at home station. Let me guess this is the best uniform design they could come up with that looks 'professional' while sitting behind a desk instead of for comfort in 100 degree weather. I guess it makes to much sense to copy the Army's uniform and replace the pattern and insignias to the AF. Why don't we focus on the fact that we are all professionals and it should not matter if we have our pants tucked into our boots or a certain color cell phone to be able to walk and talk while in uniform or how about the fact that now our leg pockets on our uniforms are now going to be increased by 12 inch.

Nicki, Iraq

6/13/2009 1:42:16 PM ET
I am on my 5th deployment its get very hot this time of year in Iraq. Before the ABU's we had the DCU's. The summer weight DCU's are not perfect but they are much cooler than the heavy and thick ABU's. I wish more consideration went into the uniform we deploy with than if you can walk and talk while on your cell phone or if your boot laces are tucked. Thank you

joseph rose, Iraq

6/13/2009 12:40:52 PM ET
I sincerely hope the the Uniform Board will reconsider tucking both the boot laces and trousers into the boots. Firstly I find it extremely uncomfortable. Secondly I don't believe that it serves the purpose of blousing the trousers in the first place. The trousers should be bloused below the top of the boots. This will prevent sand snow and other and debris from entering the boot from the top and also conceal the boot laces. I understand that we don't want the bottms to look like pajamas and some folks would try to do this. We could say that the blousing should keep the trousers at least 4-6 inches from the ground. I know we are not a democracy in this case but does anyone agree

MSgt Brent Richburg, United States

6/13/2009 10:59:37 AM ET
Unfortunately my experiences lead me to believe the Uniform Board is once again being used to distract the Air Force members from more important and bigger issues. As the force will discuss and distract themselves with the board's findings other changes will take place with little notice. In the past these were major reorgs force cuts increases in additional duties etc. Take these uniform changes with a grain of salt and look at the big picture more than likely the real changes are coming.

Jim, Kadena AB

6/13/2009 10:54:02 AM ET
Yes really....what was the reason behind tucking the trousers into the boot It really doesn't make any sense and I know a lot of people aren't happy with that decision.

Shannon Davenport, United States

6/13/2009 9:59:32 AM ET
What was the driving force behind tucking the pant legs into the boots? Was it the fact that we have so many bootsock combos now that no one ever gets it right I'm glad to see that my tax dollars are hard at work.

Dave, United States

6/13/2009 4:10:44 AM ET
I guess the whole elastic in the bottom of your ABUBDU trousers is out. Guess AAFES will be making some additional money from everyone who has to re-buy new trousers.

John, SJAFB

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